Who will be the Premier League Top Goalscorer?
ByRight gang, I think you are going to like this one.
There is nothing like a couple of weeks of limited action to get me flying around the Oddschecker website like a sniffer dog in crack den.
And as it turns out, I reckon I have cooked something up that even Jamie Oliver would be proud of.
Apologies in advance if this isn’t the most free flowing of pieces. It has taken long enough to do the preparation work and I don’t really have a spare 12 hours to make it read nice as well!
Back in July, a reader sent me a piece of analysis about the top goalscorer market, and although I chose not to take a positions in the market then, some bits of the analysis were very interesting and stuck in my mind.
It’s a shame I didn’t however, as I did tip Dimitar Berbatov as a blatant regression candidate in 2010-11 here – at a time when he was 33/1 to be the top scorer! Oh for that DeLorean!
For those that haven’t been following the site for that long, I recommend going back and checking out this post which I put together part way through the 2009-10 season on the same subject. A number of the observations from last season are still very much applicable, but I don’t plan to go over the conclusions of that piece again here.
Here is a bit of background to the Premier League top goalscorer market:
Historic Premier League Golden Boot Winners
|
Season |
Player |
Goals |
|
2009-10 |
Drogba |
29 |
|
2008-09 |
Anelka |
19 |
|
2007-08 |
Ronaldo |
31 |
|
2006-07 |
Drogba |
20 |
|
2005-06 |
Henry |
27 |
|
2004-05 |
Henry |
25 |
|
2003-04 |
Henry |
30 |
|
2002-03 |
Van Nistelrooy |
25 |
|
2001-02 |
Henry |
24 |
|
2000-01 |
Hasselbaink |
23 |
|
1999-00 |
Phillips |
30 |
|
1998-99 |
Owen/Hasselbaink |
18 |
|
1997-98 |
Owen/Sutton/Dublin |
18 |
|
1996-97 |
Shearer |
25 |
|
1995-96 |
Shearer |
31 |
|
1994-95 |
Shearer |
34 |
|
1993-94 |
Cole |
34 |
|
1992-93 |
Sheringham |
22 |
Observations
The mean average haul for the golden boot winner has been 26 over the 18 years since the inception of the EPL.
Only 13 players have ever won the award, including ties. There have only ever been 10 outright winners.
The lowest winning total to date is 18, back in 1997-98 and 1998-99. The highest ever total was Alan Shearer’s staggering 34 goal haul from the 38 game 1994-95 season.
And more importantly, as background from a betting perspective…
Interestingly, the winner of the Golden Boot has come from “the Big 4” for the last ten seasons, with Super Kevin Philips’ 30 goal haul back in 1999-00 the last time somebody from a smaller club prospered.
Even more interestingly, only three non Big 4 players have even finished second in the scoring charts since the turn of the century. I’ll let you have a few guesses at those and I will throw the answers into the comments later on.
Of the 17 players to have featured on the leaderboard, 16 are most definitely strikers – or in Big Dion Dublin’s case, were playing as strikers at the time. The 17th in Ronaldo. Enough said I think.
Only three midfielders have graced even the top 5 spots in the 10 years since 2000 – Frank Lampard twice (16, 22) Steven Gerrard (16) and Robert Pires (14). I would note that all three of these players also play(ed) for “Big 4” clubs.
Staggeringly, by my reckoning only one non Big 4 midfielder has ever finished in the top 10 of the scoring charts in the last 18 years – which covers 180 places!
The answer to this particular trivia question is… Andrei Kanchelskis! The who chalked up 16 goals for Everton back in the 1995-96 season. A legend worthy of a quick video I feel…
If you actually sit and watch that video it is quite spooky just how similar 80% of AK’s goals were. I don’t want to take anything away from his fantastic ability as a player, but you can’t help feel that the league has develpoed over the last 15 years and that teams these days would be more adept at stifling his movement and forcing him into wider positions more effectively.
Anyway, I have clearly digressed! Back to the betting.
Here is how things stand in the top scorer charts going into the exciting festive period:
Premier League Top Goalscorers as at 24/12/10
|
Pos |
Player |
Team |
Goals |
|
1 |
Dimitar Berbatov |
Man Utd |
11 |
|
2 |
Andrew Carroll |
Newcastle |
10 |
|
3 |
Carlos Tevez |
Man City |
10 |
|
4 |
Tim Cahill |
Everton |
9 |
|
5 |
Didier Drogba |
Chelsea |
8 |
|
6 |
Johan Elmander |
Bolton |
8 |
|
7 |
Samir Nasri |
Arsenal |
8 |
|
8 |
Kevin Nolan |
Newcastle |
8 |
|
9 |
Darren Bent |
Sunderland |
7 |
|
10 |
Marouane Chamakh |
Arsenal |
7 |
|
11 |
Florent Malouda |
Chelsea |
7 |
|
12 |
Kevin Davies |
Bolton |
6 |
|
13 |
Salomon Kalou |
Chelsea |
6 |
|
14 |
Peter Odemwingie |
WBA |
6 |
|
15 |
Rafael Van der Vaart |
Tottenham |
6 |
|
16 |
Gareth Bale |
Tottenham |
5 |
|
17 |
Clinton Dempsey |
Fulham |
5 |
|
18 |
Stewart Downing |
Aston Villa |
5 |
|
19 |
Asamoah Gyan |
Sunderland |
5 |
|
20 |
Marlon Harewood |
Blackpool |
5 |
|
21 |
Luis Nani |
Man Utd |
5 |
|
22 |
Roman Pavlyuchenko |
Tottenham |
5 |
|
23 |
Fernando Torres |
Liverpool |
5 |
|
24 |
Luke Varney |
Blackpool |
5 |
|
25 |
Danny Welbeck |
Sunderland |
5 |
|
26 |
Sylvan Ebanks-Blake |
Wolves |
4 |
|
27 |
Craig Gardner |
Birmingham |
4 |
|
28 |
Javier Hernandez |
Man Utd |
4 |
|
29 |
Kenwyne Jones |
Stoke City |
4 |
|
30 |
Ji-Sung Park |
Man Utd |
4 |
|
31 |
Scott Parker |
West Ham Utd |
4 |
|
32 |
MG Pedersen |
Blackburn |
4 |
|
33 |
Frederic Piquionne |
West Ham Utd |
4 |
|
34 |
Hugo Rodallega |
Wigan Athletic |
4 |
|
35 |
Theo Walcott |
Arsenal |
4 |
|
36 |
Charlie Adam |
Blackpool |
3 |
|
37 |
Marc Albrighton |
Aston Villa |
3 |
|
38 |
Shola Ameobi |
Newcastle |
3 |
|
39 |
Nicolas Anelka |
Chelsea |
3 |
|
40 |
Andrey Arshavin |
Arsenal |
3 |
The only noticeable absentees from this list are Messrs Rooney (1) and Lampard (1).
They are both cracking players, but I think it is safe to say the chances of them topping the charts this season are relatively slim.
So, with both the historic data and the current standings in mind, let’s have a look at the odds for this season’s golden boot winner.
Current Premier League Top Goalscorer odds
|
Player |
B365 |
Skybet |
Betfred |
Paddy’s |
Stan J |
Coral |
Hills |
|
Didier Drogba |
4.33 |
4.5 |
4 |
4.33 |
4.33 |
4.33 |
5 |
|
Dimitar Berbatov |
4.5 |
4.5 |
4.5 |
4.5 |
5 |
4.33 |
5 |
|
Carlos Tevez |
7 |
5 |
5.5 |
6.5 |
6 |
7 |
5.5 |
|
Andy Carroll |
9 |
11 |
9 |
10 |
9 |
7 |
9 |
|
Fernando Torres |
10 |
13 |
11 |
13 |
15 |
12 |
13 |
|
Marouane Chamakh |
15 |
21 |
15 |
19 |
17 |
13 |
17 |
|
Darren Bent |
21 |
15 |
13 |
17 |
21 |
15 |
21 |
|
Samir Nasri |
29 |
21 |
26 |
34 |
26 |
29 |
34 |
|
Wayne Rooney |
34 |
26 |
29 |
34 |
34 |
51 |
34 |
|
Johan Elmander |
26 |
51 |
26 |
41 |
26 |
34 |
41 |
|
Florent Malouda |
41 |
51 |
34 |
41 |
34 |
41 |
41 |
|
Rafael van der Vaart |
51 |
34 |
34 |
41 |
51 |
41 |
51 |
|
Tim Cahill |
67 |
51 |
41 |
51 |
67 |
26 |
67 |
|
Nicolas Anelka |
41 |
41 |
34 |
51 |
67 |
41 |
51 |
|
Javier Hernandez |
51 |
34 |
26 |
41 |
51 |
41 |
67 |
|
Asamoah Gyan |
51 |
51 |
34 |
67 |
67 |
67 |
67 |
|
Danny Welbeck |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
67 |
n/a |
|
Kevin Davies |
n/a |
67 |
51 |
67 |
81 |
81 |
67 |
|
Kevin Nolan |
81 |
67 |
67 |
67 |
101 |
51 |
81 |
|
Jermain Defoe |
67 |
81 |
67 |
81 |
101 |
81 |
81 |
|
Mario Balotelli |
81 |
101 |
81 |
81 |
81 |
101 |
67 |
|
Kenwyne Jones |
n/a |
81 |
67 |
101 |
n/a |
101 |
101 |
|
Nani |
67 |
n/a |
81 |
67 |
n/a |
67 |
101 |
|
R Pavlyuchenko |
101 |
67 |
51 |
67 |
81 |
81 |
81 |
|
F Piquionne |
n/a |
81 |
n/a |
101 |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
|
Peter Odemwingie |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
67 |
n/a |
41 |
101 |
|
Dirk Kuyt |
n/a |
81 |
101 |
n/a |
n/a |
101 |
n/a |
|
Kiko Macheda |
n/a |
101 |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
67 |
n/a |
|
DJ Campbell |
n/a |
101 |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
|
Ivan Klasnic |
n/a |
101 |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
|
Stephen Fletcher |
n/a |
101 |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
101 |
n/a |
|
Shola Ameobi |
n/a |
101 |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
|
G Bale |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
81 |
n/a |
101 |
|
Yossi Benayoun |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
101 |
n/a |
|
Robin Van Persie |
67 |
81 |
67 |
81 |
126 |
101 |
81 |
|
Nikola Zigic |
n/a |
101 |
101 |
n/a |
n/a |
126 |
n/a |
|
David NGog |
n/a |
81 |
101 |
n/a |
n/a |
126 |
n/a |
|
Cesc Fabregas |
101 |
67 |
81 |
101 |
126 |
126 |
101 |
|
Nikola Kalinic |
n/a |
101 |
81 |
n/a |
n/a |
126 |
n/a |
|
Yakubu |
n/a |
81 |
101 |
n/a |
n/a |
126 |
n/a |
|
Clint Dempsey |
n/a |
126 |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
67 |
n/a |
|
Hugo Rodallega |
n/a |
101 |
101 |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
|
Carlton Cole |
n/a |
101 |
126 |
n/a |
n/a |
126 |
n/a |
|
Theo Walcott |
n/a |
81 |
67 |
n/a |
151 |
101 |
101 |
|
Salomon Kalou |
101 |
67 |
51 |
81 |
151 |
51 |
81 |
|
Gabby Agbonlahor |
n/a |
81 |
126 |
n/a |
n/a |
151 |
101 |
|
John Carew |
n/a |
101 |
126 |
n/a |
n/a |
151 |
n/a |
|
Emmanuel Adebayor |
n/a |
151 |
81 |
101 |
n/a |
126 |
n/a |
|
Andrey Arshavin |
151 |
67 |
51 |
67 |
101 |
101 |
101 |
|
Michael Owen |
n/a |
101 |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
151 |
n/a |
|
Ricardo Fuller |
n/a |
151 |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
151 |
n/a |
|
Cameron Jerome |
n/a |
151 |
n/a |
101 |
n/a |
126 |
n/a |
|
Louis Saha |
n/a |
101 |
101 |
n/a |
n/a |
151 |
n/a |
|
Sylvan Ebanks-Blake |
n/a |
151 |
81 |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
|
Christian Benitez |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
151 |
n/a |
|
David Silva |
n/a |
101 |
151 |
n/a |
n/a |
151 |
n/a |
|
Moussa Dembele |
n/a |
n/a |
101 |
n/a |
n/a |
151 |
n/a |
|
Daniel Sturridge |
n/a |
n/a |
151 |
n/a |
n/a |
81 |
n/a |
|
Emile Heskey |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
151 |
n/a |
|
Charlie Adam |
n/a |
151 |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
|
Roman Bednar |
n/a |
151 |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
|
Frank Lampard |
n/a |
81 |
81 |
101 |
201 |
101 |
101 |
|
Jermaine Beckford |
n/a |
126 |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
101 |
n/a |
|
Nicklas Bendtner |
n/a |
81 |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
201 |
n/a |
|
Marlon Harewood |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
201 |
101 |
n/a |
|
Peter Crouch |
201 |
81 |
67 |
101 |
n/a |
101 |
151 |
|
Robbie Keane |
n/a |
101 |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
151 |
n/a |
|
Kevin Doyle |
n/a |
101 |
101 |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
|
Ashley Young |
n/a |
101 |
126 |
n/a |
n/a |
201 |
n/a |
|
Victor Anichebe |
n/a |
201 |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
|
Jason Roberts |
n/a |
201 |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
|
Luka Modric |
n/a |
201 |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
|
Graeme Dorrans |
n/a |
201 |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
n/a |
|
Steven Gerrard |
251 |
81 |
67 |
101 |
151 |
101 |
101 |
Now as you can see, the bookies like to quote prices on every man and his dog in this market. There is a simple reason for that though – because your average punter loves absolutely nothing more than to waste £5 on a ridiculous punt on Kevin Nolan or Danny Wellbeck in the hope of hitting the jackpot come May.
But we can use this in our favour. Check out the more condensed table below which contains the implied probability percentages for the main contenders and the residual market.
Current bookies odds implied probabilities
|
Player |
B365 |
Skybet |
Betfred |
Paddy’s |
Stan J |
Coral |
Hills |
BOTW |
|
Didier Drogba |
23% |
22% |
25% |
23% |
23% |
23% |
20% |
33% |
|
Dimitar Berbatov |
22% |
22% |
22% |
22% |
20% |
23% |
20% |
22% |
|
Carlos Tevez |
14% |
20% |
18% |
15% |
17% |
14% |
18% |
19% |
|
Andy Carroll |
11% |
9% |
11% |
10% |
11% |
14% |
11% |
9% |
|
Fernando Torres |
10% |
8% |
9% |
8% |
7% |
8% |
8% |
4% |
|
Marouane Chamakh |
7% |
5% |
7% |
5% |
6% |
8% |
6% |
6% |
|
Darren Bent |
5% |
7% |
8% |
6% |
5% |
7% |
5% |
4% |
|
Samir Nasri |
3% |
5% |
4% |
3% |
4% |
3% |
3% |
0% |
|
Wayne Rooney |
3% |
4% |
3% |
3% |
3% |
2% |
3% |
0% |
|
Johan Elmander |
4% |
2% |
4% |
2% |
4% |
3% |
2% |
1% |
|
Florent Malouda |
2% |
2% |
3% |
2% |
3% |
2% |
2% |
0% |
|
Rafael van der Vaart |
2% |
3% |
3% |
2% |
2% |
2% |
2% |
0% |
|
Tim Cahill |
1% |
2% |
2% |
2% |
1% |
4% |
1% |
0% |
|
Nicolas Anelka |
2% |
2% |
3% |
2% |
1% |
2% |
2% |
0% |
|
Javier Hernandez |
2% |
3% |
4% |
2% |
2% |
2% |
1% |
0% |
|
Asamoah Gyan |
2% |
2% |
3% |
1% |
1% |
1% |
1% |
0% |
|
Danny Welbeck |
0% |
0% |
0% |
0% |
0% |
1% |
0% |
0% |
|
Kevin Davies |
0% |
1% |
2% |
1% |
1% |
1% |
1% |
0% |
|
Kevin Nolan |
1% |
1% |
1% |
1% |
1% |
2% |
1% |
0% |
|
Jermain Defoe |
1% |
1% |
1% |
1% |
1% |
1% |
1% |
0% |
|
Mario Balotelli |
1% |
1% |
1% |
1% |
1% |
1% |
1% |
0% |
|
Kenwyne Jones |
0% |
1% |
1% |
1% |
0% |
1% |
1% |
0% |
|
Nani |
1% |
0% |
1% |
1% |
0% |
1% |
1% |
0% |
|
Others |
14% |
45% |
35% |
23% |
13% |
41% |
20% |
0% |
|
Total |
131% |
168% |
171% |
137% |
127% |
167% |
131% |
100% |
|
Top 5 |
80% |
81% |
86% |
78% |
78% |
83% |
77% |
87% |
Observations
Firstly, it is important to note the size of total % of the book’s being run by the individual bookmakers – which ranges from 127% to an outrageous 171! Remember, any true probability book would result in all the possible outcomes adding up to 100%.
Remember, most bookies 1X2 win market for any particular game normally adds up to about 103-108%. This addition 5-8% is the bookies “margin” or “over-round”.
This is exactly the same as the rake in a game of poker and what makes the bookies their cash. Even if you were a “break even” football gambler, you would lose money in the long term due to the tide of this margin.
It is not a surprise to see Skybet’s book coming in at 168%, as they are a bit of a joke outfit and would probably only let you bet £5 on most people anyway. However, I was surprised to see the more reputable Coral and particularly Betfred running such a high over-round.
It is no surprise to see Bet365 putting together a quality book, and the same for Paddy Power and Stan James. I was pleasantly surprised by Hill’s book. They are normally pretty measly!
So what is going on here? It is actually pretty simple to explain the large over-round in the market. All of the players that these bookies are offering odds on 100/1 and 200/1 on, such as Kevin Doyle and Ashley Young combined to give a large chunk of the total book when in reality they probably have a 10,000/1 chance of being the Premier League’s top goalscorer this season.
If you look more closely you will see that the irrespective of the size of the total book, each bookmaker’s odds for the five favourites account for 77-86% implied probability. This is more realistic and does not contain very much margin on the bookies part. They make all of their cash through people backing outsiders AKA willingly just handing over their cash with no hope of ever seeing a return!
So how do we go about exploiting this market?
Well, we can use the bookies plan to exploit the everyday punter by offering odds on such a large number of runners who stand no material chance of being the top scorer and take a weighted position against this wider field.
Let me explain.
If you take the current “best price available” for the top 5 of Drogba, Berbatov, Tevez, Carroll and Torres you have a 71% book.
That means the market is current suggesting there is a 30% chance that the top goalscorer this season will not be one of those five players… Yeah right! Good luck with that one guys.
As shown in the far right column of the table above, my fag packet estimate is that it is almost a 90% chance that the top scorer comes from that crowd.
And when you consider the historically evidence discussed at the start of this post, I would suggest that the current prices for Andy Carroll and Fernando Torres to top scorer are also actually on the stingy side.
To put Carroll’s chances into perspective, when SKP was on his way to chalking up his legendary 30 goal season for the rival Mackems at this point in 1999, he had already scored 19 Premier League goals. Carroll only has 10 to his name so far this campaign.
Phillips also scored 6 penalties that year, something which it is unlikely Carroll is likely to see anytime soon with Kevin Nolan so proficient from the spot. This is something which always goes unnoticed by the poor football analysts in this country.
As we have pricing to reflect a 70% shot when we actually have a 90% chance of success, this implies we have a market that can be exploited to take a significant +EV position.
The next step is to decide which of the nags are likely to run the course, and which are the most undervalued.
As I discussed in my previous piece on this subject linked above, there is plenty of evidence to suggest that irrespective of the team certain types of players will always score a certain percentage of their teams goals.
And certain types of team will always score roughly the same number of goals. Combining both of these it allows us to forecast the likely total goal tally for each of players in question.
I don’t have the time or the energy to go through this in detail, so here are the results of said forecast:
BOTW’s 2010-11 EPL Top Goalscorer forecast
|
Player |
Goals |
Games |
GPG |
TG |
%TG |
TGF |
RGF |
%TGF |
GF |
Total |
|
Drogba |
8 |
18 |
0.44 |
31 |
26% |
76 |
45 |
31% |
14 |
22 |
|
Tevez |
10 |
15 |
0.67 |
25 |
40% |
60 |
35 |
30% |
11 |
21 |
|
Berbatov |
11 |
14 |
0.79 |
36 |
31% |
78 |
42 |
23% |
10 |
21 |
|
Carroll |
10 |
18 |
0.56 |
27 |
37% |
55 |
28 |
30% |
8 |
18 |
|
Chamakh |
7 |
18 |
0.39 |
31 |
23% |
72 |
41 |
25% |
10 |
17 |
|
Torres |
5 |
16 |
0.31 |
21 |
24% |
53 |
32 |
30% |
10 |
15 |
|
Bent |
7 |
15 |
0.47 |
21 |
33% |
52 |
31 |
25% |
8 |
15 |
|
Elmander |
8 |
18 |
0.44 |
30 |
27% |
57 |
27 |
25% |
7 |
15 |
|
Nasri |
8 |
15 |
0.53 |
34 |
24% |
72 |
38 |
15% |
6 |
14 |
|
Cahill |
8 |
16 |
0.50 |
20 |
40% |
52 |
32 |
17% |
5 |
13 |
|
Nolan |
8 |
14 |
0.57 |
27 |
30% |
55 |
28 |
17% |
5 |
13 |
|
Rooney |
1 |
7 |
0.14 |
36 |
3% |
78 |
42 |
25% |
11 |
12 |
|
Lampard |
1 |
4 |
0.25 |
31 |
3% |
75 |
44 |
20% |
9 |
10 |
As you can see, the science suggests that yet again the top goalscorer come from one of the top 4 sides. Quelle surprise!
The only slight surprise is that my forecast is suggesting that Tim Cahill is going to join Andrei Kanchelskis as the 2nd ever non Big 4 Premier League midfielder to crack the top 10.
But then I guess Moyes has been using him upfront for most of the campaign… lies, damnlies and statistics as they say!
So what’s the plan Stan?
I am going to take a position covering the big three, weight in favour of Didier Drogba. I am also going to take a minor position on Andy Carroll to, as they call it in the trade, “cover my arse”.
Realistically, this will mean I am only exposed to Fernando Torres, Marouane Chamakh and Darren Bent. Or Johan Elmander signing for somebody else in January, inheriting penalty taking duties and going on a rampage.
I am comfortable with this level of risk.
Here is what I am recommending:
BOTW’s weighted position
|
Player |
Odds |
Stake |
Profit |
Net |
|
Drogba |
5.0 |
4.7 |
18.8 |
13.5 |
|
Berbatov |
5.0 |
2.5 |
10.0 |
2.5 |
|
Tevez |
7.0 |
1.8 |
10.8 |
2.6 |
|
Carroll |
10.0 |
1.0 |
9.0 |
0.0 |
For a total combined 10pt stake, I will structure the stakes such that I make an acceptable 25% profit on Messrs Berbatov and Tevez (which would more than justify tying up the cash for 6 months) and weight my position such that I have a sexy 135% profit should Didier regress back to his old self and start scoring at his historic rates.
And for good measure, we will have a little tinkle on Carroll just in case he manages to stay out of prison, keep on scoring or worst of all moves to Spurs in January!
Hopefully everyone managed to stick with me and my ramblings throughout that mahoosive piece. It’s time for a lie down after all of that I think.
Let the debate begin…
BOTW: 10pt spread across the EPL Top Goalscorer market as above
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Blez,
This has been my favourite piece in about a year of reading. Have missed out on a few of your longer positions but will be getting on this one for sure.
Great stuff many thanks
Cockers
Glad you enjoyed it Cockers, I thought you might.
Have to confess particularly proud of this one.
I’d get your positions on quick, as I would guess even with my limited number of readers the 7/1 on Tevez at least will likely disappear pretty quickly!
You will still be able to take a decent position at 6.5 and 7.0, however it will keep eating into the additional profit you can line up on the Drog.
Back tonight hopefully with my boxing day selections, although I may end up putting them up whilst digesting my Christmas lunch!
Cheers
Great piece mate. Not much debate to be had I wouldn’t have thought, as you have made your point extensively. Not that I don’t like a big read at Christmas
Only thing I might do differently is take Carrol out of the picture, but very small stake and anyone that can beat Reina from 30 yards has a bright future.
Torres could always go crazy but without penalties he’s unlikely to catch up that deficit against penalty takers.
Anyone going to have a stab at the three non Big 4 players that have finished second then?
Pretty sure I wouldn’t have got them all!
No cheating…
Enjoyed reading that, thanks.
Just a point about Tim Cahill, if I may, he’ll be off to play for Australia in the Asian Cup soon so will miss some opportunities to climb the goalscoring table.
Mr Darren Bent? not sure when but with his kind of consistency I’d expect him to have featured somewhere?
My main man Marcus Stewart!!!?? What a season that was for the mighty Tractor Boys. COYB!
@Dayno – I am afraid the Dazzler hasn’t ever made 2nd place… however, Lord Marcus Stewart certainly did!
A fantastic 19 goal haul, trailing only Thunder Thighs himself Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink in 2000/01.
Dayno 1 The Field 0…
@Kris – Hi Sir, thanks for the comment. Really appreciated. Have you been following the site long?
Hopefully you were on QPR today too.
Great point on Cahill. I didn’t factor in him missing those games – that will probably cost him a goal versus my forecast.
Cheers
I know this is a week or two late but one question, Blez (and apologies if I missed something obvious…)
What do the columns “TGF” and “RGF” stand for?
And as an extension to that, on what, precisely, are you basing your predictions for future teams/players goals?
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I found this to be a weird comment: To put Carroll’s chances into perspective, when SKP was on his way to chalking up his legendary 30 goal season for the rival Mackems at this point in 1999, he had already scored 19 Premier League goals. Carroll only has 10 to his name so far this campaign.
1. You’re comparing against a top scorer who had more that the average number of goals (30 compared to 26)
2. That criticism could equally apply to the other candidates: To put Drogba’s chances into perspective, when SKP was on his way to chalking up his legendary 30 goal season for the Mackems at this point in 1999, he had already scored 19 Premier League goals. Drogba only has 8 to his name so far this campaign.
Morning One Veron,
Always nice to have new people commenting on the site – great to have you on board.
I don’t think I have quite got my head around quite what you were trying to say, but I’ll have a stab at explaining myself.
1. The comparison was not meant to in anyway link to SKP’s haul of 30 goals – simply that he was the only example of a non top 4 player managing to top the charts.
In that sense, Carroll’s position is comparable. As I put in my forecast I don’t think anyone will get 30 goals this campaign.
All I was trying to point out was that SKP’s haul was a bit of an outlier.
As an aside he also scored a bucket load of penalties which are currently being swallowed up by Kevin Nolan. With those under his belt AC would have stood a more legitimate chance.
2. Andy Carroll’s chances are reduced, not because he necessarily a lesser player or a reduced goal threat, but because he plays for a “lesser” team.
At the time, pre the arrival of Leon Best, I had forecast Newcastle to score 28 goals in the second half of the season. They may now manage a few more, but it won’t be far off.
The other candidates are all playing clubs who forecast to score significantly more goals in the second half 35,42 and 45 respectively.
In Drobga’s case that means, if fit and selected, he will get more opportunities to score than AC. Inherent benefit of playing for a stronger overall team.
Having just has a quick look back at Drogba’s 2009/10 season and Henry’s 2003/04 season, they had scored 13 and 12 goals respectively at the half way point of the season.
In 1999/00 SKP really did set off like a house on fire. And that is why he managed to overcome the challenge of playing for a team scoring less goals.
He scored 53% (30/57) of the Black Cat’s goals that season, which is right up against the highest rates seen in the EPL era.
Given Newcastle’s style of play, their numerous other goals scoring threats and most importantly the fact that AC doesn’t take their penalties there is nothing to suggest he will be score anywhere near that proportion of their goals.
Hope some of that helps to explain my reasoning?
Cheers
Blez
Can anyone clear up how many goals Drogba currently has by the way? BBC says 8 but the source I was using:
http://www.premierleague.com/page/Statistics/0,,12306,00.html
says 9…
Is actually quite important!
Ok got it. Thanks for clearing that up.
The BBC hasn’t taken into account the last round of matches yet. Hence Drogba, Nolan and Van Der Vaart are 1 goal higher on the premier league site by comparison.
I think Drogba’s a good bet alright, but I think I’ll wait until Chelsea’s slump ends a) just in case he falls too far behind and b) the longer it goes on the longer Drogba’s odds will be.
I have to say, I don’t fancy Berbatov’s chances because he’ll be dropped when Fergie wants to play 5 in the middle, and Tevez might have competition from Dzenko, if not for place on the team then at least for goal scoring opportunities.